~~Concerns~~ / "The way to Shiva"

~~~Concerns : "The way to Shiva"~~~
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25072011
© Vinay Vaidya 
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3:01 PM
e- : hi

me : hi !

e : i made everything right i deleted the site

me : congratulations,!

e- : thanks
3:02 PM
me : and tomorrow is your exam ?
ready ?
3:03 PM
e-: no ! exam is postponed

me : :)

e- : to 30 aug

me : jul or aug. ?

e- : party ho gaye ab agla exam 29 ko hai
 30 aug ko hai
3:04 PM
me : very late ?
e - : University jinda bad
  :)
me : but your career ?
3:05 PM
e- : haaa
3:06 PM
but this world is an illusion shiva ! why i get into
trap of illusion ? Career is also an illusion, let shiva
decide it. Why do i take tension its shiva's tension
what to do with me not mine.
 :)
me: right.
3:07 PM
and 29 jul or aug ko aglaa exam ?
e- : 29 july ko hindi ka exam

me: not difficult.
3:08 PM
e- : can't say i had read it yet.
me: theek hai, let shiva take care /worry,...
e- : yaa
3:09 PM
me: how are you ? health, blood-pressure...?
3:10 PM
e- : everything is fine / normal.
I am like the rays of sun
me: piercing the cloud ?
e- : :)
barish ho gaye dhup bhee hai.
(It rained, and now the sky is wide open with
bright sunlight.)
3:11 PM
me: that is your avatar ! hai na ?
e- : everything is me, avatara or whatever.
3:12 PM
and me is I.
me: do you feel one day everything that is part
of the memory will go away ?
....and even the memory itself fades-out,...gone ?
e- : so everything is I
3:13 PM
me: and can you imagine what you are without
the memories, bad, good or others?
e- : yes.
3:14 PM
imagining our self without memories is also........,
memories..., thought can't go beyond memories
.....
me: yes.
3:15 PM
So what are you when you are neither what happens
to the body, nor what happens to the mind ?
3:16 PM
memory, desire, fear, worry, happen to mind, sickness,
health, thirst, hunger happen to the body.
3:20 PM
e- : I is beyond the thoughts if u observe the I then
there is no memories and no thought and mind don't
work without memories so what i m is beyond the
thoughts and words depends upon thoughts so i can
not be explained in words, cause it is a long chain of
illusion which depends on each other even body is also
a tool for continuing of thoughts and illusion. u dont
have any body and mind its all is like spider net which
is made to trap u but if u know the truth then this spider
net is illusion and u found nothing other then shiva and
u observe ur self as shiva....
3:22 PM
me: and what about relationship of any kind, ...?  of mine
and your's, ..... and of papa, mummy, brothers, friends,...
people, and acquaintences?
is it not that all in memory and thought only ?
3:26 PM
e- : it is memory actully we create this by our thoughts
and made it memory, cause our senses feel good with it
so i think i don't know i m right or not but i think that mind
khud ko relax karne ke liye or indriyo ka sukh pane ke liye
ye memory create karta hai (...mind, creates memory in the
hope of relaxing itself, or to enjoy the pleasures of the
senses) and because of the this, continued impressions
create 'sanskar' (acquired habits / tendencies stored in the
mind) and make the spider net strong.
3:27 PM
me: yes. but why mind seeks 'sukh' (happiness) ? is it because
it is not 'sukhee' (happy) ?
what makes it 'dukhee' (unhappy) ?
3:28 PM
if that is not seen, mind will continue in search of 'sukh' in
and through the 'senses', and will hardly see why it is not
'sukhee'.
3:29 PM
so, do you feel it is very important to see, how mind gets
traped into it's own thought, / memory ?
3:31 PM
e- : mind is made of thought and thought-impressions run the
body. The body is made-up of 'senses' and it have its 'needs'.
Mind thinks (believes ?) it-self as the body, because they have
the same origin, -the thoughts.
so when the body feels happy which is nothing other then a
thought-impression, mind thinks it is happy, so in this way,
mind is trapped into its own thoughts of illusion.
3:35 PM
me: brilliant ! but is there real 'sukh' in keeping the body
always in a  'sukhee' condition ? and is it possible also ? So,
is it not important to get less and less influenced by the body
and the mind, let them do their work, which they are already
doing, say it 'praarabdha' or prakriti, and without interferring
in their functioning, without trying to 'control' or regulate them,
but with enough alertness so that they may not be a problem
to you, and at the same time keep your attention ever on the
'Shiva', the one constant thing that is never affected, and stays
as 'saakshi' (The Witness) ?
3:36 PM
e-: yes ur correct.
3:37 PM
me: if you can follow this thread (sutra), you can always find
"The way to Shiva", whatever you are doing or
are compelled (to do), forced by the body, the mind and the
circumstances.
3:39 PM
e-: :)
me: say thanks to me !!!
3:40 PM
e- : thank you so much prabhu !
me: yes,...I am happy. Thanks, blessings.
3:41 PM
e- : i was thinking to say thanks but i didn't, i just smiled ( :) ,
-another thing that proves, our wavelengths tally.
:)
3:42 PM
me: yes,.....! achchha bye,...! Thanks for the chat.
e- : One minute ! Is 'Shiva' also not a word or name only ?
me : yes. just as the 'Window' is a name of a thing we use,
and 'know' through the senses, and could be replaced by
any other word according to our convention, ....

3:46 

e- : So the 'thing' is important, not the word.
me : yes,...! Thanks again.
3:47
e- : thanks to u too !!
me: :)
e- : :) bye
me: :) bye !

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